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***DNB as animal or vegetable rather than mineral/monument: essentially amorphous and mobile, a "living organism" | ***DNB as animal or vegetable rather than mineral/monument: essentially amorphous and mobile, a "living organism" | ||
****he image of DNB "as animal" comes to be displaced by image of DNB "as mineral", a repository of monolithic truth. | ****he image of DNB "as animal" comes to be displaced by image of DNB "as mineral", a repository of monolithic truth. | ||
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| + | *Session 2 | ||
| + | **Rosemary Mitchell, Vic historical comedy as radical alternative to history writing | ||
| + | ***"amusement and instruction" mixt (Gilbert A Becket): "destabilizing neoclassical muse of history [Clio]" | ||
| + | ***Thackeray shows ability to question reliability of historical narratives and sources through Miss Tickletoby in Punch | ||
| + | **Helen Kingstone | ||
| + | ***how history and the novel both claim authority from mimetic ability | ||
| + | ***'''"narrative is linear, action is solid" (Carlyle) - relativity of the type of truth history and fiction offer | ||
| + | ***expectations of mimetic value of historical novel as a middle ground between the two. method: periodical reviews to map expectations | ||
| + | ***Helen Kingstone on the early Victorian blurring between history and historical fiction - sometimes expectations the same, all the more reason to take Rosemary Mitchell’s argument of taking seriously fictive texts as historiographical models''' | ||
| + | ***disciplinary definition of history leading to this boundary becoming less wobbly and permeable | ||
| + | ***history/particular truth, novel/general truth by end of period (does this match with realism discourses tho?) | ||
| + | **Josh Poklad -- '''look up''' | ||
| + | ***advertising influencing history | ||
| + | ***interesting on the fragmentation of commodities satisfying different needs after the Great Exhibition: commodities and their spectacles | ||
| + | ***dialectic of images Benjamin commodity - '''l/u''' | ||
| + | ****"The dream time of consumption" | ||
| + | ***'''pseudo carnivalesque world of consumption: incorporating this energy into regulated capitalist consumption - spectacle reorienting history around the commodity''' | ||
| + | ***spectacle absorbing agency: scrapbooks of ads reasserting energy as when correcting ads | ||
| + | ****Poklad: Scrapbooking demonstrates to us Victn engagement with adverts and their personal recontextualisations of these msgs | ||
| + | ***spectacle as a form of discipline through incoherence and chaos, appropriating carnivalesque energy to capital | ||
| + | |||
| + | *Keynote: Mike Huggins, "Revising "Respectability"" | ||
| + | **existing historiography, why revise concept, how does it relate to class analysis | ||
| + | **'''l/u''' The Victorian Studies Reader | ||
| + | **"The middle class was obsessed with gentility respectability and decorum, it's what distinguished the middle class from the lower class: I don't believe that for a second." | ||
| + | **his research into middle classes at horse-racing: they were much more involved than we like to think | ||
| + | **why do certain areas of ill repute still stay on the margins of our study? | ||
| + | **why are Victorianists so obsessed with respectability? | ||
| + | **Victorian respectability - not moral: "a man's situation and success in life, not his character or conduct. The city merchant never loses his respectability until he becomes a bankrupt" article from 1850s. "A 'venerated' term but full of noise" | ||
| + | ***their understanding of it was inchoate, perhaps more so than ours | ||
| + | **"there are faultlines that run through classes when it comes to respectability." they don't map precisely, not least cos there are other identities: respectability is multiple, situational, fluid | ||
| + | ***what about "respectable" servants and "dissolute" aristos? | ||
| + | **financial stability is what is signaled by respectability | ||
| + | **(dis)respectability in space: are pleasure and respectability orthogonal? Extends from different places to different countries, men going to Asia to get their sexual jollies | ||
| + | **religious groups shaping respectability to the ethical demands of Christianity, or as they do now, as "ideologies of justification"? (i think that's the phrase he used) | ||
| + | **was respectability more than an empty signifier? More impactful in public than in private | ||
| + | **"It's a word used about other people" more than themselves | ||
| + | **Moretti: Victorian adjectives in The Bourgeois -- benefitting from vagueness | ||
| + | **Gambling - like the guy in The Way We Live Now | ||
| + | **credit -- reputation and money -- is it more economic than anything else? Depends on context. | ||
Latest revision as of 12:01, 22 August 2017
- Opening RT
- Edwina Ehrman, V&A
- Corsets - materiality
- never worn directly against the skin
- symbol of tension btwn natural and fashion(ed) body
- Corsets - materiality
- Francesco Marroni
- "toward an epistemic maze: vic novel and its 'shattered limbs'"
- look him up
- 1916 Lukacs "concealed totality of life" (TN? Theory of the Novel?)
- Karin Koehler: "Marroni: the aesthetic differences between Eliot and Hardy also signal a cultural difference. #BAVS2017"
- look up Niyati Sharma (Oxford) - had lunch with her - late c19 popular fiction
- Kate Hill - l/u
- Museums had a constitutive role in producing a modernity that relies on categories and boundaries
- Objects used to police boundaries among people as well as among growing intellectual disciplines in Victorian museums
- In the Victorian museum, Objects and the power to create boundaries/hierarchies between disciplines and people.
- Wd be fascinating to see where Hill’s museum history intersects with Victorian discourses abt library and information organization
- l/u Russell-Cotes Museum in Bournemouth
- "Victorian classification as a work in progress rather than fixed"
- Museum Bodies book - l/u
- Museum Trouble - murder suicide in Nat'l Portrait Gallery
- Edwina Ehrman, V&A
- Session 1
- Gordon Tait: working class poetry: Skipsey, R Spence Watson (northern educationalist), Yeats
- "biographical silence"
- learned poetry from reading Shakespeare - later Sh Birthplace custodian
- ask: in mine libraries? Can we generalize from access to books in those collections to questions of form?
- A Rich: "silence can be a plan / rigorously executed"
- cultural memory matching oppression in lifetime
- Emily Bell, Dickens Biofiction and Biography (York)
- D and women in C20 biofiction and biography
- questions of influence and later biofiction not crediting D with much imagination - he meets a real Dora Spenlow in a early C20 play
- Interesting that modern biofiction seeks to downplay (explain?) imaginative power: Dickens meets a real Dora, Shakespeare in Love…
- Forster: excesses in D's character(ization) explained by early experiences
- Shifting away from Dickens to wider circles fictional and real in biofiction
- Amber Regis, "The DNB Unbound"
- DNB as animal or vegetable rather than mineral/monument: essentially amorphous and mobile, a "living organism"
- he image of DNB "as animal" comes to be displaced by image of DNB "as mineral", a repository of monolithic truth.
- DNB as animal or vegetable rather than mineral/monument: essentially amorphous and mobile, a "living organism"
- Gordon Tait: working class poetry: Skipsey, R Spence Watson (northern educationalist), Yeats
- Session 2
- Rosemary Mitchell, Vic historical comedy as radical alternative to history writing
- "amusement and instruction" mixt (Gilbert A Becket): "destabilizing neoclassical muse of history [Clio]"
- Thackeray shows ability to question reliability of historical narratives and sources through Miss Tickletoby in Punch
- Helen Kingstone
- how history and the novel both claim authority from mimetic ability
- "narrative is linear, action is solid" (Carlyle) - relativity of the type of truth history and fiction offer
- expectations of mimetic value of historical novel as a middle ground between the two. method: periodical reviews to map expectations
- Helen Kingstone on the early Victorian blurring between history and historical fiction - sometimes expectations the same, all the more reason to take Rosemary Mitchell’s argument of taking seriously fictive texts as historiographical models
- disciplinary definition of history leading to this boundary becoming less wobbly and permeable
- history/particular truth, novel/general truth by end of period (does this match with realism discourses tho?)
- Josh Poklad -- look up
- advertising influencing history
- interesting on the fragmentation of commodities satisfying different needs after the Great Exhibition: commodities and their spectacles
- dialectic of images Benjamin commodity - l/u
- "The dream time of consumption"
- pseudo carnivalesque world of consumption: incorporating this energy into regulated capitalist consumption - spectacle reorienting history around the commodity
- spectacle absorbing agency: scrapbooks of ads reasserting energy as when correcting ads
- Poklad: Scrapbooking demonstrates to us Victn engagement with adverts and their personal recontextualisations of these msgs
- spectacle as a form of discipline through incoherence and chaos, appropriating carnivalesque energy to capital
- Rosemary Mitchell, Vic historical comedy as radical alternative to history writing
- Keynote: Mike Huggins, "Revising "Respectability""
- existing historiography, why revise concept, how does it relate to class analysis
- l/u The Victorian Studies Reader
- "The middle class was obsessed with gentility respectability and decorum, it's what distinguished the middle class from the lower class: I don't believe that for a second."
- his research into middle classes at horse-racing: they were much more involved than we like to think
- why do certain areas of ill repute still stay on the margins of our study?
- why are Victorianists so obsessed with respectability?
- Victorian respectability - not moral: "a man's situation and success in life, not his character or conduct. The city merchant never loses his respectability until he becomes a bankrupt" article from 1850s. "A 'venerated' term but full of noise"
- their understanding of it was inchoate, perhaps more so than ours
- "there are faultlines that run through classes when it comes to respectability." they don't map precisely, not least cos there are other identities: respectability is multiple, situational, fluid
- what about "respectable" servants and "dissolute" aristos?
- financial stability is what is signaled by respectability
- (dis)respectability in space: are pleasure and respectability orthogonal? Extends from different places to different countries, men going to Asia to get their sexual jollies
- religious groups shaping respectability to the ethical demands of Christianity, or as they do now, as "ideologies of justification"? (i think that's the phrase he used)
- was respectability more than an empty signifier? More impactful in public than in private
- "It's a word used about other people" more than themselves
- Moretti: Victorian adjectives in The Bourgeois -- benefitting from vagueness
- Gambling - like the guy in The Way We Live Now
- credit -- reputation and money -- is it more economic than anything else? Depends on context.
